tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905610385807403881.post6161391217428245102..comments2023-09-22T00:28:06.506+10:00Comments on littledogsonlongleashes: Introspection and my 1st question.georgia little peahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01388133043071314431noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905610385807403881.post-13000230237138381102012-07-26T15:46:19.007+10:002012-07-26T15:46:19.007+10:00Chandra, I was so hoping you'd drop by since I...Chandra, I was so hoping you'd drop by since I know your vegan ways!<br /><br />I do feel guilty but, as I said, I'm also practical and believe in the food chain. We eat much less meat than we used to and I believe we can reduce that even more. What this whole week has done is make me realise that I shouldn't be so lazy about making informed and humane choices about what [meat] I do eat. I have a long LONG way to go! <br /><br />YOU, on the other hand, sound almost Jain-like :) I look forward to your thoughts on the other posts! Xgeorgia little peahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01388133043071314431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905610385807403881.post-15894896037393456582012-07-26T15:26:06.458+10:002012-07-26T15:26:06.458+10:00Your knee looks fabulous!
I started eating vegeta...Your knee looks fabulous!<br /><br />I started eating vegetarian 11 years ago. Three and half years ago I cut out dairy and fish as well. I still wear and use the leather that I have purchased over the years because I feel the proper thing to do is to get the very most use out of it possible. (Those darn Louis Vuitton purses are probably going to last another 30 years!)<br /><br />The choices were a progression that happened naturally for me. I didn't struggle to stay vegetarian and I don't struggle to eat vegan because when I made the decision it was what I wanted to do with my whole heart and mind. <br /><br />I believe that guilt is very bad for the heart and mind and if you feel guilty, as you said, about eating meat then perhaps it's time for a change. <br /><br />-c at ddy, who always has food in her purse so she won't go hungry in this bacon-on-everthing world and who served meat at her wedding to satisfy her bacon-on-everything loving guests.chandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06746795162602289473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905610385807403881.post-65557577505160911652012-07-25T21:47:13.949+10:002012-07-25T21:47:13.949+10:00Hey Flo's mama - being a zoologist, I expect y...Hey Flo's mama - being a zoologist, I expect you know much more about all this animal stuff than I do. I'm just a googler. How cool are those links! I'm glad at least SOME of my brands are okay :)georgia little peahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01388133043071314431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905610385807403881.post-56040043762947637652012-07-25T20:54:26.296+10:002012-07-25T20:54:26.296+10:00Oh you made me think. Boo. And I had to click on...Oh you made me think. Boo. And I had to click on those links. I am sad to see the tuna I buy is way down there close to the bottom... They're good sites though - I didn't know about them. <br /><br />As for Pate do fois gras... I agree. I'm also not sure whether or not veal is raised the same way here as it was in Europe, but I won't buy it and am surprised to see so much of it sold here. I can't say it's anything I've looked into though and I suppose I ought to do my homework before I get up on that ever-so-high horse. <br /><br />Glad to see the knee is doing what it's supposed to be doing! :)H and Flohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06984289992426028563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905610385807403881.post-14881437269947207272012-07-25T16:53:23.336+10:002012-07-25T16:53:23.336+10:00Karen - I've heard of that doco but have yet t...Karen - I've heard of that doco but have yet to see it. Thanks! I'm learning more about eating low on the seafood chain myself :)georgia little peahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01388133043071314431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905610385807403881.post-62905466813352157192012-07-25T16:09:30.722+10:002012-07-25T16:09:30.722+10:00I quite enjoyed your snarky humour on my blog, yes...I quite enjoyed your snarky humour on my blog, yesterday.<br /><br />I think that one can be an animal lover & a meat eater. The are animals that are "pets" and there are animals that are "meat". As long as ALL the meat animals are treated humanely, I don't have a problem with it.<br /><br />It's interesting that you bring up the tuna issue. It's a very, very serious issue that is directly affecting the health of the oceans. Tuna & sharks are top-level predators that are having their population numbers threatened. Without a stable population of predator fish, the health of all fish populations are threatened. That's why I don't eat tuna.<br /><br />If you can get your hands on this documentary, watch it.<br />http://endoftheline.com/Karen Frieseckehttp://www.doggiestylish.com/blognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905610385807403881.post-573692710800703292012-07-25T12:53:53.696+10:002012-07-25T12:53:53.696+10:00Do you know i have not actually read this whole po...Do you know i have not actually read this whole post yet... *LOL* and the next one... but i have read the most recent picture post :D<br /><br />i am a very visual creature.<br /><br />will come back to you when i have digested the whole bloody long 2 posts... bloody long. Remind me not to bug you next time.booahboohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08855494427481650614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905610385807403881.post-84883030363995994562012-07-25T12:12:14.035+10:002012-07-25T12:12:14.035+10:00HAHAHAHAHA!!! THAT WAS PRECIOUS, Anny! Let this be...HAHAHAHAHA!!! THAT WAS PRECIOUS, Anny! Let this be a lesson to you not to send out reminders for me to post ;Pgeorgia little peahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01388133043071314431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905610385807403881.post-33178328874177615472012-07-25T12:09:59.090+10:002012-07-25T12:09:59.090+10:00I can eat six donuts and get away with it too. *LO...I can eat six donuts and get away with it too. *LOL* still get away with it for now. But i might just expand suddenly one fine day.<br /><br />moderation and balance. that is most important.booahboohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08855494427481650614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905610385807403881.post-32775411881342996842012-07-25T11:51:30.544+10:002012-07-25T11:51:30.544+10:00Can i just say that you do have very thin legs... ...Can i just say that you do have very thin legs... hahahahhahahaa..<br /><br />i know you are not expecting a comment like that after a very very long post even though you have nothing much to say...booahboohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08855494427481650614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905610385807403881.post-83657722089748305902012-07-24T23:43:33.263+10:002012-07-24T23:43:33.263+10:00Amy! I don't believe you! I've seen pictur...Amy! I don't believe you! I've seen pictures of you and you're a (very good looking) string bean. No one could eat 6 doughnuts a day and get away with it. Can they?<br /><br />Apart from cake and cream, I do try to eat responsibly ;) I think after this, I'm going to try even harder. It'll take some effort but it does feel right.georgia little peahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01388133043071314431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905610385807403881.post-64819573166809364382012-07-24T23:15:45.367+10:002012-07-24T23:15:45.367+10:00I'm so glad to see you're healing well - a...I'm so glad to see you're healing well - and I'm glad the BtC blogging event got stuck in your head. A little introspection is good for us all! <br /><br />I think you can love animals without being vegetarian, but it means making responsible choices - like you've suggested. Buying your meat from a local farmer is probably the best way to go, and if you can go to the farm and see how the animals are raised that's even better. I wouldn't want to purchase meat that was raised or slaughtered in an inhumane way. <br /><br />I've also seriously cut back how much meat I eat - six days a week I try to eat a healthy, mostly vegetarian diet ... and then on Saturdays I eat as much of whatever it is I've been craving during the week. Half a dozen donuts, a whole package of cookies, as many french fries as I can stuff in my face ... you name it! The cool thing is, once of splurged on something I generally don't crave it again for months! I don't feel like I'm suffering because it's only ever a few days until Saturday.Amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04451132815804002971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905610385807403881.post-48628135954096450172012-07-24T13:22:55.048+10:002012-07-24T13:22:55.048+10:00Lori - waste is The Other Half's big bugbear. ...Lori - waste is The Other Half's big bugbear. He's been training me to reduce waste for over 20 years. I'm a slow learner but I do believe I'm much better now. Right Cushion?<br /><br />Jen - Exactly! I don't have problems with eating meat per se, just with inhumane husbandry and slaughter. <br /><br />JEAN! BWAH HAHA!!! you are so right. Introspection is much worse and unfortunately I have more questions. Its going to be a long week.<br /><br />I agree with everything you said. The trouble for someone like me is that I don't know enough about anything and many issues are not black and white. Things are often so interconnected that while we think we're doing some good, it may not actually be so. Like years spent encouraging people to choose fish over (red) meat. Too much confusion for a little pig like me really.<br /><br />BTW, re: the slugs and mozzies...did you somehow read my draft for a future post? Maybe we all just have the same questions :)georgia little peahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01388133043071314431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905610385807403881.post-16094240616029337432012-07-24T12:59:55.912+10:002012-07-24T12:59:55.912+10:00Glad to see all is well, Typist, but my goodness t...Glad to see all is well, Typist, but my goodness the introspection might be worse than the silence!<br />I have often pondered your question - many of my animal-loving friends are vegetarian, some vegan. I am not. <br /> <br />I do believe all living things are interdependent, that biodiversity is essential to the survival of all of us (if you search 'biodiversity' on my blog, you'll see I've written about it a few times). From my perspective, that doesn't mean we humans can't eat other species any more than it means dogs can't eat chickens or cats can't eat mice.<br /> As I see it, the problem is that we humans have not respected biodiversity and our methods of farming, harvesting, killing, logging, fishing, polluting, genetic engineering, etc have upset the balance and threaten not only the lives of other living things but our own human existence.<br /> <br />As an animal lover, I am appalled by the treatment of commercial pigs, chickens, calves, etc. I try to buy meat from hormone free, free-range local farmers. I don't always succeed - as you say, it is much more expensive than the mass-produced, inhumanely-raised meats. But I do eat less meat and eat it less often than I once did.<br /><br />As an angler, I enjoy fish as part of my diet, but never buy farmed fish. And I have never understood fishing just for sport - ie, catch and release (in which many fish die anyway, after a terrifying experience) - catch only what you are going to eat, and waste as little as possible. <br />I think globally we have to wake up to the way we treat all living things - plants, animals, each other. All living things are dependent on all others.<br /><br />On the other hand, I could live without mosquitoes, slugs and fleas. Okay, mosquitoes provide food for bats. Slugs provide food for ducks. But what on earth is the good of fleas? The day fleas were given life, I think the Creator just had too much time on his/her hands. Maybe he/she was recovering from knee surgery.Jeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08231007979360748217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905610385807403881.post-37198368586702793182012-07-24T12:57:25.959+10:002012-07-24T12:57:25.959+10:00Great post! My fiance and I were talking the other...Great post! My fiance and I were talking the other day about the notion of being an animal lover but still a meat eater. We both feel that animals are essentially blameless, and as a result, humans do have a responsibility to giving them humane care. However, we do also believe in the food chain, and so I take Temple Grandin's (paraphrased) response: just because we're eating them doesn't mean they need to live in fear and pain, even in their last moments.Jenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10562151546770315227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905610385807403881.post-89037417815121143532012-07-24T12:11:12.702+10:002012-07-24T12:11:12.702+10:00Well...your knee looks great! Your question...I w...Well...your knee looks great! Your question...I would love to be a vegan or a vegetarian, but am too lazy. That is wrong of me, but true. I do try to buy more responsibly and not waste as much, but I have a long way to go. The waste is probably what bothers me the most.What Remains Nowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08639514211222397393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905610385807403881.post-638516977865821752012-07-24T11:28:06.823+10:002012-07-24T11:28:06.823+10:00Tootsie - us dogs just do what we have to. Its cal...Tootsie - us dogs just do what we have to. Its called nature. I think. Your friend, Georgia x<br /><br />Good luck with that Leslie!<br /><br />Dear Cushion, I meant that figuratively of course, and not in fact. You know very well The Person In Charge sees everything and will know you were only the assassin. Ohm xgeorgia little peahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01388133043071314431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905610385807403881.post-23470567287524961372012-07-24T10:55:26.365+10:002012-07-24T10:55:26.365+10:00"... and I accept that sometimes I have to be..."... and I accept that sometimes I have to be the one wielding the hatchet" ... what a lie!! Your karma is intact, woman. As your assassin, I'm the one condemned to the roast pit in the fire of hell.<br /><br />The cushionAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905610385807403881.post-62546588440789817802012-07-24T10:55:06.305+10:002012-07-24T10:55:06.305+10:00Hey Typist, happy to see you're muddling along...Hey Typist, happy to see you're muddling along and the knee is improving. Actually, I would have been happy to 'read' that and not really 'see' it. (I am such a wimp when it comes to other people's pain. ;)<br /><br />You've asked a great question and one I've pondered oft myself. In fact, a little over 3 weeks ago now, I've changed over to a primarily vegetarian diet. I haven't worked out all the details myself yet of what I want to do but I do know that I want to reduce my involvement in the persistence of factory farming. I'm trying to eat no meat at all but I'll never get Jan to forego meat entirely. I could live with getting him down to one or two meat-based meals a week.<br /><br />Keep up the good work with the knee and the thinking. :)Lesliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10538737461438864728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905610385807403881.post-8293792298991815082012-07-24T07:55:28.494+10:002012-07-24T07:55:28.494+10:00I am entering the rabbit hole. Alas. I killed a mo...I am entering the rabbit hole. Alas. I killed a mouse last night. (It's true.) I'm a mighty hunter. But as you know, I'm a dog. Mom will have a different take.<br /><br />Keep on wagging,<br />TootsieBicontinental Dachshundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16333834293290654277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905610385807403881.post-71516329578367441172012-07-24T07:48:25.025+10:002012-07-24T07:48:25.025+10:00Good morning! I've learnt a bit from your comm...Good morning! I've learnt a bit from your comments. Thank you!<br /><br />Kirsten - we have cut down our meat consumption a lot over the years so that's great to know.<br /><br />Sister 1 - that's deeeeep. Tables too eh ;) I will have to email you on this. I believe that ALL beings are important as well, and I don't like prioritising sentience either though nature has (and Buddhism too? That's surprising but practical). BTW, that was going to be a question later on and still might be, though it's a tough concept to write about without sounding *hmmmm* mad.<br /><br />Peggy - thank you for introducing me to Temple Grandin! I'm putting her link down here for anyone who'd like to read about her thoughts on humane slaughter http://www.grandin.com/<br /><br />Pamela - eating low on the food chain is something I need to find out more about. Sardines over tuna. Sounds like sensible eating to me. Never knew it was called flexitarian! <br /><br />Re: the mice. If they're getting into your food stores, what can you do? As you might remember, we have a summer rat problem. I'm more practical (hard hearted) about it. The Other Half is almost in tears every time we catch and dispose of one. We catch them in proper traps not those snap contraptions, so they remain whole and uninjured (though frightened obviously). At first, we tried relocating them (which I don't think is actually allowed here). But after doing some reading on the Internet, decided the most humane way would be to gas them which we do via the car exhaust. I'm sure some people who read this will laugh and think I'm as mad as my sister, but I always say a proper goodbye to each one. It isn't easy. Death occurs daily in the natural world, and I accept that sometimes I have to be the one wielding the hatchet. I just don't like inhumane or unnecessary killing. Good luck!<br /><br />Jan - LOL no, animals are not Disney characters. Left to their own devices, they're nothing like Babe ;) I have to keep reminding The Other Half about that. He has dreams of owning an idyllic farm one day, where the animals are all his friends. I hope he reads your comment.<br /><br />Lulu - another vegan! It sounds Iike most of the readers here are vegetarians/vegans or at least eating ethically which is fantastic! There are so many reasons why people become vegos... religious, moral, health, taste. The Other Half was actually vegetarian for about 8 months. He did it for moral reasons. He turned 100% overnight but after a few months, he started to get sick and couldn't get better. So eventually, for health reasons (like you and your hubby), he had to go back to eating some meat. In retrospect, turning vego is probably something one needs to do gradually so the body doesn't get into a frenzy! <br /><br />Oh Kristine! I'm in a muddle over the issue myself and am incredibly wishy washy about it! I'm learning but very slowly. There are so many grey areas and everything is interconnected. <br /><br />Crikey! That was a very long response! Xgeorgia little peahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01388133043071314431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905610385807403881.post-49150126722251587222012-07-24T05:58:57.765+10:002012-07-24T05:58:57.765+10:00Oh, and glad you are doing better post-surgery! Th...Oh, and glad you are doing better post-surgery! Thanks for those, uh, lovely photos.Kristinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08942859130560139570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905610385807403881.post-32604661568921493132012-07-24T05:58:37.283+10:002012-07-24T05:58:37.283+10:00Love the signs. They would crack me up on a daily ...Love the signs. They would crack me up on a daily basis.<br /><br />That is a very tough question. You don't do things half-ass, do you? It's something I have been thinking a lot about in the last year and sadly I still don't have an easy answer. I am not against eating meat but I am against a lot of the modern farming practices. It's pretty hard to justify my love of animals and my knowledge of their intelligence, while making purchases I know support said farms. It doesn't sit well with me but at the same time, I haven't been able to make any serious changes.<br /><br />How's that for a wishy washy response?Kristinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08942859130560139570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905610385807403881.post-2275944015558294752012-07-24T05:04:46.981+10:002012-07-24T05:04:46.981+10:00I'm glad to hear you're healing well, we a...I'm glad to hear you're healing well, we all forgive you for any snappiness, can't say I've noticed any but you do get snapping rights when ill or recovering ;)<br /><br />I really love this blog because there are so many little changes like those you've pointed out here, that people can do to significantly change the world of farming. <br /><br />I adore animals and decided to go vegan a few years ago but now we do eat fish as I felt my body needed it and my man has a blood disorder so has to have red meat once a week. So we do our best to always choose pole and line caught sustainable fish and organic local beef. <br /><br />There's definitely a lot you can do even if you do eat meat and dairy, like you say :DAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905610385807403881.post-83859429937260132342012-07-24T01:14:10.333+10:002012-07-24T01:14:10.333+10:00Welcome back, you were worth waiting for.
I know...Welcome back, you were worth waiting for. <br /><br />I know a lot of farmers on land and on blogs. They birth their animals, feed them, give them names, grow very fond of them and sometimes sell them or eat them. They don't think of their animals as Disney characters, just a necessary part of the food chain.<br /><br />But with reluctance I will forgo eating caviar and foie gras.Janhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07145008534811435024noreply@blogger.com